Curse

wsmcasey · Apr 07, 2006, 01:33 AM // 01:33

Okay guys, this is a rant. I'm so sick of customers being able to report runners if they steal money and leave, but what about us poor runners that get stiffed by customers that dont pay? It's a double standard, and we all know it. It's useless for me to report the guy to Anet over 700g, but it really just pisses me off that people are like this.

There really needs to be a trade system implemented to where customers put the money in a holding account during the run so that they don't have it and neither do I. If the runner bails, then the customer keeps there gold. If the run is successful then the runner gets paid with no problems.

This is my main source of income folks, and I know it is for a lot of others, so I know I'm not alone on this issue.

You could ask for payment in advance, or at half way points, but that doesn't work in every situation.

I'll bet if all runners went on strike Guild Wars would come to a screeching halt!

Rant over

I feel better now, sorta

Inureface · Apr 07, 2006, 01:35 AM // 01:35

I know you already mentioned this in your post, but why not just take cash on the way, I don't really know a run where they can shaft you and still make it to their destination without a loss as long as you collect at the right places, just curious, which run do you get scammed out of the most? You might want to rethink where you take a part of the money.

Haggard · Apr 07, 2006, 01:41 AM // 01:41

^ Leaving at camp rankor then just fighting to droks with hench/a guildie saves the scammer 1.5k.

Killmur · Apr 07, 2006, 01:44 AM // 01:44

Also a middle man type setup like you proposed would be very trivial in the eyes of A-Net.

Rilder · Apr 07, 2006, 02:01 AM // 02:01

Wow a system made just for runners, I know Anet isnt against runners but seriously I dont think they actually think its a good thing that you can run from the beginning of the game to 5 missions before the last mission in the game.

mint · Apr 07, 2006, 02:13 AM // 02:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by wsmcasey

I'll bet if all runners went on strike Guild Wars would come to a screeching halt!

Because people need runners to get between towns? Map travel...durrrr

If all the runners went on strike, there would just be more to replace them...

wsmcasey · Apr 07, 2006, 03:34 AM // 03:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by mint

Because people need runners to get between towns? Map travel...durrrr

If all the runners went on strike, there would just be more to replace them...

Dude! I wasn't serious, and I know that wouldn't work.

You can't "Map Travel" if you don't have the freakin town on you map.....durrrr

Tropan · Apr 07, 2006, 03:43 AM // 03:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by wsmcasey

Dude! I wasn't serious, and I know that wouldn't work.

You can't "Map Travel" if you don't have the freakin town on you map.....durrrr

I recall the system working perfectly before there were any runners :P

pintpointfive · Apr 07, 2006, 03:44 AM // 03:44

K, but you're hurting all the people that scam runs when a system like the one you're suggesting is implemented... How am I supposed to get run now?

Phaern Majes · Apr 07, 2006, 05:26 AM // 05:26

I've never heard of a runner getting banned for scamming. The runner could just claim they were a nice person handing out gold, and now regret doing so. I'm against running, but I realize that me not running won't make it go away. However, whenever I get scammed I just say "Well, I shouldn't be running anyways." But thats just my opinion.

Hired Blade · Apr 07, 2006, 06:59 AM // 06:59

Here is what i do when i run droks. Make them show money, pay half at snakes, half at rankor. is someone doesnt pay I will ask them to leave and offer to pay back. Most the time i find they will leave. So most i loose is a half. I dont think areanet is really aginst runners, after all they made it so u can. For example they could put a guy in cave at snakes that could not be ran by.

Gonzo · Apr 07, 2006, 07:24 AM // 07:24

Here is what I do when I run to droks: Either I'm praticing and yell "Practice run to droks, made it before but never know if I'm wasting your time or not" wait 5 minutes and head out either alone or with some people hoping for a free ride or I'm running a guildie there.

Here's what I do when running somewhere else: "Free run to <insert place>, leaving in 5 minutes full party or not" or I'm running a guildie.

I don't believe in paying for running, since I got (and get) my share of free runs.

Riceboi · Apr 07, 2006, 08:09 AM // 08:09

/signed for a runner holding trade account.

Twiggy · Apr 07, 2006, 08:15 AM // 08:15

/signed

I've been scammed so many times that I decided to stop running till a system like this is implemented.

Yanman.be · Apr 07, 2006, 08:26 AM // 08:26

running should only be allowed for people that can proove they've already beaten the game..

like a little quiz every outpost would be nice ^^

e.g. who's Prince Rurik's girlfriend...

offcourse a large base of questions , because it'll be easy to cheat otherwise

art_ · Apr 07, 2006, 08:31 AM // 08:31

I think i'd fail that quiz. Who is Ruriks gf? :<

Gonzo · Apr 07, 2006, 08:43 AM // 08:43

Hmm, though one. Since she's dead, does she still count as his gf? Basicly Rurik is single.

I see a new way to make money, however this isn't very scamproof. A character coming allong on the run holding the money and giving it back to either the runner or the runnees depening on the outcome. He will get 5% for this. However, it must be a trustworthy person and how will you manage that?

Lady Lozza · Apr 07, 2006, 08:57 AM // 08:57

art_ it was Althea

Most of the time I've not had a problem with runners, either the runner/s themselves or those being run. The other 10% haven't really mattered.
Those who refuse to pay at Snake Dance can't be kicked, but that is ok because if they don't pay I've just mapped back to Beacon's with the rest of the team and run them again. If they don't pay at Rankor they generally get booted. I've seen people gloat at Snake Dance, "you can't kick me so what are you going to do", and they are usually gobsmacked when the rest of the team heads back to Beacon's. Sure it takes more time, but honestly better that running a "sith" around.

Silent Kitty · Apr 07, 2006, 09:09 AM // 09:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanman.be

running should only be allowed for people that can proove they've already beaten the game..

like a little quiz every outpost would be nice ^^

e.g. who's Prince Rurik's girlfriend...

offcourse a large base of questions , because it'll be easy to cheat otherwise

For 1K I whisper you the answer. Whenever you have questions, just wire me the money and I'll whisper it to to

Divinus Stella · Apr 07, 2006, 10:39 AM // 10:39

I'd be happier if all running stopped, would solve many problems in this game.

One of the main ones i see is the 55hp monks that get run around this game, it takes about 3-4hrs to get a 55hp monk setup and soloing droks trolls, from there its lvl20 in no time, as i see it there would be a lot less botters in the game if all these monks had to play through the game.